PM-Advani
verbal duel on talks, Kashmir issue
NEW
DELHI, Mar 3: The Lok Sabha today
witnessed an interesting passage of arms when
Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh intervened
repeatedly and rejected BJP leader L K
Advanis charge that US pressure was behind
Indias decision to talk to Pakistan.
In a sharp verbal
duel during the debate on the Motion of Thanks to
the Presidents Address, Dr Singh asserted
that there is no change in the US policy on
Indo-Pak relations after President Barack Obama
came to power.
He intervened on
more than two occasions during the 75-minute
speech by Advani, seeking to set the record
straight on the Indo-Pak talks besides other
issues like one-rank-one-pension for
armed forces.
"You are
using this debate to sow seeds... What you are
attributing to President Obama is certainly not
true. In my discussions with President Obama, he
has unambiguously said that there is no change in
the US policy towards India and Pakistan
(relations)," the Prime Minister asserted.
He was replying to
Advani who suggested that the US was behind the
recent Indo-Pak Foreign Secretary-level as Obama
had publicly said during his Presidential
campaign that he would try to resolve Kashmir
issue.
This, the BJP
leader, contended marked a change in the US
position as the previous US Administrations had
maintained that they would not mediate in
Indo-Pak relations unless both the countries want
it.
The Prime Minister
was again in a mood to give back when Advani
referred to reports that India and Pakistan had
held "secret" talks over Kashmir and
wanted the Government to tell Parliament what the
parleys are about.
He took the battle
into the rival camp by questioning why the
details of the series of parleys held between the
then External Affairs Minister Jaswant Singh and
US Deputy Secretary of State Strobe Talbott were
not shared with Parliament.
"Let me ask
you one question. How many times did Jaswant
Singh hold talks with Strobe Talbott. Was
Parliament kept informed about the over dozen
meetings? Why then are you expecting me to answer
hypothetical questions," Dr Singh said.
At this, Advani
appeared to be defensive and said he had read
about these "secret" meetings in the
media. "If there is no substance, I will be
happy," he said. He, however, said the
Government should be cautious "even if there
is an iota of truth".
The BJP leader
said if the Government tries to reach any
compromise on Kashmir issue through such
"secret" meetings, there will be
agitation throughout the country.
In this regard, he
opposed according pre-1953 status to Jammu and
Kashmir when the President and Supreme Court of
India had no authority over matters related to
the State.
Advani, the former
Leader of Opposition and now NDAs Working
Chairman, also questioned the utility of the
recent talks with Pakistan , which he suggested
marked a shift in Indias post 26/11 stand
of not holding dialogue with Pakistan till it
ended terrorism.
He suggested that
Government appeared to lack unanimity in approach
over talks with Pakistan.
Opposing the
talks, Advani said these were held even as Army
chief Gen Deepak Kapoor said terror
infrastructure in Pakistan was intact and 700
terrorists were kept ready for infiltration into
India.
"What did we
achieve by talking? I could not see any positive
outcome... The only concrete thing in the
statement of Foreign Secretary (Nirupama Rao) was
we will keep in touch. It is not an
achievement because we have been in touch even
after Mumbai attacks," Advani said.
The BJP leader
attacked the Government for having talks with
Pakistan despite the latter rejecting Indian
dossiers of evidence on Mumbai attacks.
Referring to
External Affairs Minister S M Krishnas
statement that the talks were
"constructive", he said Pakistan,
however, says we dont want any
lecture from India. "We are inviting
insult," he said.
He mentioned the
Indo-Pak joint statement issued in
Sharm-el-Sheikh in July last year after talks
between Dr Singh and his Pakistani counterpart
Yousuf Raza Gilani and said it reflected a change
in Indias stance as terror was delinked
from dialogue.
On the
Governments contention that Pakistan
cant be ignored as it is a neighbour, the
BJP leader said even former Prime Minister Atal
Bihari Vajpayee used to hold this view that one
can change history but not geography.
"It is
correct that we cant ignore a neighbour.
But it is also true that since Pakistan is a
neighbour, there is terrorism in India. We cannot
ignore that too," he said.
Advani said BJP
also wanted to have friendly ties with Pakistan
and made moves in this regard during NDA
Government.
In this regard, he
referred to the 2001 Agra Summit and said it
failed because the then Pakistan President Pervez
Musharraf refused to accept that terrorism in
India had source in his country and kept saying
that there was freedom struggle in Jammu
and Kashmir.
"Then we said
(to Musharraf), leave it and go," the then
Home Minister said.
Asserting that the
NDA Governments stand in Agra was correct,
he said it had made Musharraf to change his
position and agree three years later in Islamabad
that Pakistan would not allow terrorism from
Pakistan or territories controlled by it.
The PM intervened
for the first time when Advani referred to Dr
Singhs Independence Day speech in which he
had referred to steps regarding the demand of ex
servicemen relating to one rank one
pay.
Dr Singh said
whatever promises have been made were delivered
by the Government and that Advani "should
not create a rift between the Services and the
Government" on the issue.
A defensive Advani
said he was "not creating a rift. If these
have been implemented, I am very happy."
The BJP leader,
however, added that the "feeling" he
got from ex-servicemen was that the assurances
have not been implemented.
He reminded the
House that the Finance Minister in his Budget
Speech of 2008 had said that Rs 2100 crore will
be spent per annum in implementing one rank one
pension scheme. (PTI)
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